Received: from mail3.bellsouth.net (mail3.bellsouth.net [205.152.32.6]) by mail.mem.bellsouth.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA07416 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 23:21:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from merckx.graphics.cornell.edu (MERCKX.GRAPHICS.CORNELL.EDU [128.84.247.147]) by mail3.bellsouth.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA19865 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 23:20:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by merckx.graphics.cornell.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA15873; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 23:18:17 -0400 Received: by MAX-F.GRAPHICS.CORNELL.EDU (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA158723468; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 23:17:48 -0400 Received: from merckx.graphics.cornell.edu by MAX-F.GRAPHICS.CORNELL.EDU with SMTP (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA158693465; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 23:17:45 -0400 Received: by merckx.graphics.cornell.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA15844; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 23:17:44 -0400 Received: from default ([206.105.115.47]) by maila.kih.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 999-29276) with SMTP id AAA542 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 23:05:19 -0400 Message-Id: <33FBAD28.242E@kih.net> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 22:51:20 -0400 From: "Michael Biel" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: vinylphiles@graphics.cornell.edu Subject: Pitch Shifting was Re: The future IS VINYL References: <970818225029_75613.1265_GHT111-2@CompuServe.COM> <33FB93ED.3EE7@worldnet.att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-vinylphiles@graphics.cornell.edu Precedence: bulk X-UIDL: 5f6eb6218f14134bcb8f232e138018bb X-PMFLAGS: 34078848 0 Robert Cohen wrote: > > Steven R. Rochlin wrote: > > > > Bob, > > > > >>>A point I've meant to make for a long time. Many mid-fi turntables > > from the 70's and 80's had pitch control, or speed control (some hi end > > TT's have the same). You can play drums to anything, but not so with > > piano or guitar (I play guitar). I used to spend many hours learning > > new songs by playing along with a record. You *must* have a pitch > > control to do that; CD and cassette cannot be used for that purpose. > > As good a reason as any to keep vinyl alive.<<< > > > > Well, um, hate to say this but there are quite a few CD players with 'pitch' > > control. With DJ CD players, a upper end ($220) Technics, a Dennon... you > > actually change the speed BUT the music's frequency pitch doesn't change (that > > also depends on the CD player in question). In other words the song slows down > > BUT the pitch of the music remains as it was recorded. > > How the hech do they do that? And, anyway, if you can't change the > pitch, you still can't play along with the music, so the feature is only > good if you want to change the speed of dancing, right? What he describes should be called a "tempo control." A speed control would adjust both the tempo and pitch simultaneously. A pitch shifter adjusts only the pitch. Unfortunately the industry seems to want to call everything a pitch control even if it isnt. Once you are in the digital domaine you can change anything. By adding some additional cycles to a tone you can raise its pitch. By skipping some cycles in a tone you reduce its pitch. If you speed up a recording--which raises its pitch--if you reduce the pitch with a pitch shifter by the same amount, you have a faster recording at the original pitch. And vice versa. Now, let me tell you how the Whirling Dirvish did it in analogue. The machine uses a tape with a stationary recording head but the playback is through a head wheel with four heads that rotate either in the direction of tape movement or opposite direction of tape movement. The wheel is set up so that the tape contacts it for 90 degrees of its circumference. So one--and only one--of the four heads is always in contact with the tape. If the head wheel is rotating in the same direction of the tape it will reduce the pitch because while the tape is recorded at a certain speed it is being played back at a lower speed. The RELATIVE SPEED of the tape vs. the moving head is lower than the relative speed of the tape vs. the stationary recording head. But since a new head will pick up at an earlier place than where the old head leaves the tape, it will appear that there will be little pieces of tape that played twice. But the tape and the wheel are moving VERY fast, so these little pieces are ALMOST unnoticable. If the head wheel is rotating against the direction of tape movement, the pitch will be raised because the relative speed of tape vs. play head has been raised. The new head will pick up at a later point on the tape than the old head left and will be cutting out little pieces of tape as unplayed. These extra or missing pieces are not unnoticable. There are smoothing circuits which help cover them over, and you can adjust the tape speed and the head wheel speed to find a frequency of the cuts that won't be objectionable. But it is better for speech than for music, and the more the pitch is varied from normal, the more noticable it is. Sounds like voodoo, but it works. Mike Biel mbiel@kih.net